> I have an old Apollo box running Domain 10.4.1 and lost the password for > root, the only account. ... the HP service engineer said that I should have > given him a ring as they have a way to get in ! ... Can anyone enlighten me > further into how this would be done Hmmm He was NOT boasting... With physical access to an HP 9000 I can break root ok... I dont think he can do it with a backdoor password... Even If it could be possible..BUT THAT couldnt be widely known Only the person who put it there Anywayz since I am the one who started sniffers' saga in our maillist I suggest that the whole matter is covered...UP to here guys... I guess there is no way to detect a sniffer without having the whole net upside down... Theodore